Wes Craven On Scream 4 Script Control + Scream 5 & 6

The latest issue of Total Film contains a Scream 4 feature (shared with Fast Five, of all movies) offering up ample quotage from cast members, with Wes Craven the chief interview subject. Surprisingly, he was asked about his unjustly infamous script control quote of last year, and offered a candid but philosophical response.

During production, Craven tweeted that he was “no longer in control of the script” as Scream 3 writer Ehren Kruger came in to rework Williamson’s draft. “I was just stating the fact,” he recalls. “In some ways it’s a Wes Craven film, and in way it’s not entirely, because it’s not a script I have control of. It’s ultimately controlled by what the studio wants in the script. My job is much more bringing whatever experience and expertise and creativity I can.” He pauses. “Look, there was a bumpy period when things shifted over from Kevin to Ehren. I signed up to do a script by Kevin and unfortunately that didn’t go all the way through the shooting. But it certainly is Kevin’s script and concept and ideas and themes.”

With the future a bit of a mystery, he had this to say about Scream 5 and Scream 6:

And would Craven be up for any more if this Screamed up enough box office? “When I initially met with Kevin, he sketched out what the next two would be, and I found it really fascinating,” he concludes. “A lot depends on whether they come up with scripts to flesh out. But certainly, I’m up for it, if the script is there. It’s a fascinating thing to do two trilogies in a career.”

Other topics discussed with Craven include the whole Hostel brand of horror movie that Scream 4 skews on. Neve Campbell, Emma Roberts, Hayden Panettiere and Rory Culkin comment on the sequel in addition to revealing their favorite scary movies.

Thanks to StarryKat on our forums for the tip-off.

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44 Responses to “ Wes Craven On Scream 4 Script Control + Scream 5 & 6 ”


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  1. Why was Kevin replaced to begin with?

  2. Because he wasn’t available. And it doesn’t bother me, Ehren did a great job with Scream 3.

  3. @Ryan. If it was as simple as him not being available to do on set rewrites then #1 Why is Kevin clearly unhappy with anything S4 related and #2 Why would craven state it was a bumpy transition? If KW was simply unable to work rewrites into his busy schedule then why the bad blood? Seems like something bigger than him not being available.

  4. Agreed. Ehren is never given enough credit – for a script written seemingly day to day from an almost totally abandoned treatment, “Scream 3″ is still a great movie.

  5. ^ NO he didnt scream 3 in my opinion was still the WEAKEST of the trilogy…..TEAM KEVIN !!!

  6. Who knows why he was replaced. I would love to think it was just because he wasn’t available. But, the more I read, the more I think he walked on his own accord.

  7. My problem with scream 3 is that it wasn’t scary. There was rarely any tension in comparison to the first two movies and the majority of the new cast were completely undeveloped. Who cared when they died, they were barely even cameo parts. It wasn’t a bad movie overall, but fell short on those two very important elements IMO.

  8. Ehren did a great job with Scream 3 if Scream 3 was supposed to be a slapstick detective film void of blood.

  9. oh great…i hope scream 4 will do well at the box office..so scream 5 & 6 can come :D
    thx wes :)

  10. You know….none of this would bother me if I knew KW was gonna write part 5 & 6. But, here is what I fear is gonna happen- April 15th is gonna show up and S4 is gonna be a solid film…then KW won’t write any more material and the new trilogy will either get abandoned or it’ll be done by someone else.

  11. While I don’t like the non-creative suits getting involved, don’t forget it was Weinstein who suggested that Principal Himbry be killed in the fist script, noting that the script went too long without a killing.

    But I just want to see a true Craven-Williamson movie from beginning to end. It’s kinda annoying that this stuff keeps happening.

  12. I assume this is why Kevin is pissed off?

  13. He probably could not commit his full attention to it at the time. Look at it this way my friends. Thank GOD they had a full kevin script to work from and whatever changes they did make did not warrent Kevin from being given credit for it. And that is FABULOUS news. Scream 3, while not the strongest of the series, was written from someone who did not have background with the series at the time and therefore the tone of the film was different than before.

    The sad thing about this news is that if they make a Scream 5 and 6, it sounds as if Kevin will not be involved. My question about this is, why was Wes not given control of the script. Did they not have faith Wes could have handled script polishing? I credit the success of these films not just to Kevin but also Wes. He is just as much a creator of this franchise as anyone else.

  14. I disagree. Kevin dialogues are much better than Ehren’s. I don’t want to see Scream 5 and 6 with Ehren Krueger’s plot. He stoled the thunder of Orci and Kurtzman’s script from Transformers 2. And now, he is the absolute writer in the third part.

    The only Ehren _krueger movie that I really enjoyed is Arlington Road

    Scream saga is better with Wes/Kevin dynamic duo. Maybe we have to wait until Scream 5 (2013-2014???) because Kevin is very busy with Vampire Diaries and other new show called “The Secret Circle”

  15. From what we have seen so far from trailers and whatnot, Scream 4 seems okay without Kevin’s complete presence. So it does not worry me so much.

    But I have to admit the overall feel of Scream 3 was different from 1 and 2, so I hope Scream 4 doesn’t end up being that way. But again, it doesn’t look like it will.

  16. scooby scooby doo, where are you?

    you know, ehren would have gotten away with it, too, if it hadn’t been for you meddling kids… with your good tastes in cinema.

  17. I disagree. You can’t tell if a movie is “okay” just by seeing the trailer and promo pics. SCREAM 3 did, however, have a different tone than part 1 & 2 but the script was brilliant. It was so different. That was the only movie out of all to kill of one of the secondary characters in the opening act. Sidney wasn’t in the movie for quite a lot but we learned to develop more feelings for Dewey and Gale and now that SCREAM 4 is coming along I think that’s exactly what we needed. The killer and the motives just tied in to everything and made complete sense. I also disagree with people who say character development wasn’t all that great. The only scene that wasn’t the best was when they were all in the mansion and they split up. That did not seem like SCREAM at all as it makes fun of all the cliches of horror films.

  18. But – -
    I do have faith in SCREAM 4 and I hope it will be the best in the franchise.

  19. As long as Kevin’s concepts, themes, and his writing are still in it, then im ok with it.
    And yes, i bet something bigger happened with keving and the weinsteins, but who really knows.
    They should at least confirm something.
    Also, i really hope Kevin ends up at LEAST writing drafts for Scream 4 & 5 so it can actually feel like a scream film, unlike Scream 3.

  20. Sorry, i meant him writing drafts for Scream 5 & 6..

  21. If this makes as much as i think it will expect Scream 5 & 6 to JUST say “Based on characters created by Kevin Williamson”.

  22. I love “Scream 3,” so this news isn’t that troubling. It’s still great to have Kevin back in the series, and from what I hear, Ehren just changed a few character relationships and a few minor things. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the things Ehren changed was Jill’s last name. Didn’t it used to be Kessler? And now it’s Roberts (as in Maureen Roberts in “Scream 3″?)

  23. I’m glad they did the Kessler-Roberts name change. It wouldn’t have made sense if they kept Kessler. Kevin’s a GREAT writer, but the Kessler thing was his idea, and sometimes Kevin isn’t the smartest person in the world. Don’t get me wrong, Kevin’s amazing, but lolKessler?

  24. I wasn’t aware they changed kills last name from Kessler to Roberts? Does anyone remember when this happened…..before filming…..during filming? Very interesting.

  25. Ooops I meant Jill

  26. Scream 3 is easily the weakest of the first three, but I still enjoy it. This Craven interview worries me, though, because he more or less says that the studio interfered with the film, and it isn’t even his. Read between the lines. Is this gonna end up being another studio-interference debacle like “Cursed”? I hope not. Damn I’m really bummed now.

  27. All you people whining over Wes not being given control of the script . . . if you had seen MY SOUL TO TAKE, you’d know that’s probably not a bad thing. Heh.

    That said, I am irritated that Kevin Williamson seems to jump ship with alarming regularity when it comes to this series. I get it, he has other obligations, but this is the series that gave him a career, and I think he owes the fans. (He certainly owes me for VENOM.) SCREAM 3, while certainly entertaining, was was not on the same level as 1 and 2, and that’s due to his lack of participation. If he insists on doing this over and over, the least he could do is explain himself to the fans. But, oh wait, if the Weinsteins back the money truck up to his house for the next two, I’m sure he’ll step right in line.

  28. Sorry for the venom of my last comment. I just get frustrated that our SCREAM experiences keep getting tarnished by behind-the-scenes drama. The previews for SCREAM 4 and the screening reviews from this site are all very indicative of a quality project, so I’m sure things will work out okay in the end. Right? :)

  29. As much as i can’t stand studios messing with the creative input….if it wasn’t for miramax we wouldn’t have the name SCREAM! We wouldn’t have have the Principal H. death scene. And, i read that “Teenie Weenie” line that williamson had at the end of SCREAM….lol! Thank GOD that that was re-written. I love KW’s scripts and ideas….like the majority. But, he’s human and makes poor writing decisions too. It’ll all come out allright in the end gents! We’re almost there.

  30. First the cast poster, which is the worst poster I’ve seen this year so far, and not this. I’m still more excited about this film than any other movie ever, but not as much as I was before.

  31. Uh, why was it stupid to have Jill’s character’s last name be Kessler and be related to Neil Prescott through her mother rather than go the obvious route of connecting things to Maureen yet again?

  32. Before we jump ship, let’s just remember that Ehren Krueger does not have a writing credit on Scream 4. While I certainly can’t call myself a fan of his work, I do still have faith that the bulk of Kevin’s script is still in tact.

    And, let us not forget that Williamson has a history of not handing in complete scripts. The Scream 2 screenplay he wrote was barely a draft. Sequences were written as “Wes does something scary here,” and it came in without an ending. Kevin Williamson has proven that if there’s a conflict between Scream and another project, he will choose the other project.

    Call me naive, but I’m still holding out hope.

  33. Oh yeah, I agree that Kevin has a habit of bailing on the franchise. He did the same thing with Dawson’s Creek, a show that was great when he was there and then turned god-awful when he bailed on it. He did the same thing with Scream 3, but I’m not sure if that happened here. It almost seems like the script was taken away from him, but who knows? He won’t even talk about it.

  34. Ah Ehren Kruger. Ruined Transformers, screwed up Scream 3 and when he wrote the only genius horror film The Ring, he screws it up with The Ring Two. But Kevin Williamson chosing his other projects over Scream is not his fault. I think if Kevin doesn’t have enough time then Wes should step in, not the whole thing but he could definitely do a good job especially since its a scream film. My Soul To Take was a mess but let’s forgive him for that. Go scream 4!

  35. Let me quickly change that: the only good genius horror film that he created. . . Not the only genius horror film. That would be madness.

  36. he did not create The Ring. It’s a remake.

  37. hey there not to be a bother just curious if anyone has a link of a (hq) or a decent size photo of that one at the very top with neve in the middle if you do can you let me know

  38. Hi rach7, you can find some source links here on our forum: http://scream-trilogy.net/ultimatemb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=2893

  39. oh well thank you wicked-scribe i appreciate there very much

  40. i mean that not there lol

  41. scream 5 & 6 has to be around 2012-2013 it has to end.

  42. SCREAM3 WAS GOOD BUT NOT EVEN CLOSE TO HALF AS GOOD AS IT WOULD’VE BEEN IF KEVIN WILLIAMSON WROTE IT, HE KNOWS THE PLOT LINES.. HE KNEW WHAT HE WAS PLANNING FOR IN THE NEXT ONE… HE WOULD’VE MADE IT BETTER HE WAS THE ORIGINAL WRITER AND HE MUST HAVE HAD SOMETHING PLANNED IN FOR THE FINAL CHAPTER OF THE TRILOGY HE WOULD’VE MADE IT PERFECT.. ORIGINAL WRITERS ALWAYS HAVE PLANS FOR SOMETHING IN THE END.. OF A TRILOGY AND SOMETIMES THE END OF THE SERIES (FRANCHISE)

  43. Ehren and Kevin are both my favorite writers in the world of suspense thriller movies… Ehren’s The Skeleton Key is one my favorite horror movie and obviously Scream 1 and 2 for Kev… i just love them,,.. if only they both write for SCreaM 6… Kevin will be writing for 5… so… i will start the praying habit… cant u see? SCream and SCreaM 2 are all box office.. except 3.. (yet 3 reach a grossing income of 89 million which is also great!).. the money that time goes down,,… if they make a new trilogy for SCREAM, the money for sure will fly up… different era… see?

  44. please bring back billys dad in scream 5 as a victim please make scream 5 please wes craven!! we all want another movie! so please wes make the movie come out in 2013!

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